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by Mark Tiedemann
Thu Feb 10, 2011 2:15 pm
Forum: General
Topic: SCIENCE VS RELIGION
Replies: 8451
Views: 175835

Re: SCIENCE VS RELIGION

I'm also inclined to argue that atheists indeed have plenty of imagination, but only within certain boundaries, locked inside a narcissic/nihilistic sphere of thought. This isn't my bias talking; it's a trait I've picked up on almost every writer who's an avowed atheist, sometimes more subdued than...
by Mark Tiedemann
Wed Feb 02, 2011 4:52 pm
Forum: General
Topic: SCIENCE VS RELIGION
Replies: 8451
Views: 175835

Re: SCIENCE VS RELIGION

People think atheists don't understand people of faith. Call that naive, not anti-intellectual. I would quibble---I don't think the reaction is that considered. Most people equate atheism with lack of morality. Maybe the problem with not understanding people of faith is wrapped up in that, but only...
by Mark Tiedemann
Wed Feb 02, 2011 1:03 pm
Forum: General
Topic: SCIENCE VS RELIGION
Replies: 8451
Views: 175835

Re: SCIENCE VS RELIGION

Ben, Yes, PZ can get a bit strident. But consider this scenario, which is more common (and certainly more likely than the one you described, although I can imagine it happening as well): Many years ago I went with a friend to another friend's house to play guitar for an evening. The host's mother wa...
by Mark Tiedemann
Mon Jan 31, 2011 1:20 pm
Forum: General
Topic: SCIENCE VS RELIGION
Replies: 8451
Views: 175835

Re: SCIENCE VS RELIGION

You argue it doesn't matter if Stalin and/or Hitler were atheists; the real issue is why so many people were willing to support their psychosis. I wouldn't try to disagree, except for the fact that Hitler's twisted Darwinian aspirations weren't limited solely to himself. .[/quote] The distortions o...
by Mark Tiedemann
Sun Jan 30, 2011 6:56 pm
Forum: General
Topic: SCIENCE VS RELIGION
Replies: 8451
Views: 175835

Re: SCIENCE VS RELIGION

. Darwin's ideals were no more immune to infection than Christ's. [/quote] Didn't say they were. Often in these sorts of exchanges that point is lost and Darwin gets thrown on the heap with all the others receiving "blame" for fueling an atheistic regime, while more often you hear immediat...
by Mark Tiedemann
Sat Jan 29, 2011 4:36 pm
Forum: General
Topic: SCIENCE VS RELIGION
Replies: 8451
Views: 175835

Re: SCIENCE VS RELIGION

Stalin was an atheist, and Hitler had little actual investment in Christianity. If anything, his regime was built up on perverted Darwinian principles. This is often stated but does not hold up. Stalin may have been an atheist, but he was trained in the seminary. He understood the dynamics of cults...
by Mark Tiedemann
Sat Jan 22, 2011 1:53 pm
Forum: General
Topic: SCIENCE VS RELIGION
Replies: 8451
Views: 175835

Re: SCIENCE VS RELIGION

Moving my two-cents worth over to the Forums per Our Host's request, I'll just post this link for now.

http://marktiedemann.com/wordpress/?p=411

Cheers
by Mark Tiedemann
Forum: General
Topic: THE PAVILION ANNEX
Replies: 9947
Views: 467726

Re: THE PAVILION ANNEX

I seem unable to view the most recent posts. Anyone else having this problem? I'm stuck at this past Monday.
by Mark Tiedemann
Forum: General
Topic: SCIENCE VS RELIGION
Replies: 8451
Views: 175835

Re: SCIENCE VS RELIGION

I'm enjoying this exchange greatly. Sharp comments and observations from both "sides." One observation: the assertion that atheism constitutes a dogma doesn't hold water. Dogma by definition is a set of behavioral and philosophical dicta which take precedence over individual conscience by ...
by Mark Tiedemann
Forum: General
Topic: SCIENCE VS RELIGION
Replies: 8451
Views: 175835

Re: SCIENCE VS RELIGION

Frank brought this up over on the Pav page and I ain't cluttering it up with a response, so I'm moving it here. This is a new one. Reagan was a nonbeliever. Excuse me? The man who raised prayer breakfasts to the level of a cabinet post and brought Jerry Falwell and his moral loons into politics? Who...

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