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by Mark Tiedemann
Wed Nov 12, 2014 3:30 pm
Forum: Pop Culture
Topic: Whatcha reading?
Replies: 2033
Views: 56936

Re: Whatcha reading?

Someone read Steve King's new book and tell me if it is good before I read it. It is about religion. gulp. King said he likes Amazon. oh oh. This is a minor quibble, but it irritates me. He's not Steve King. It's Stephen. It's not the same. Sorry. Getting people's names right is kind of a thing wit...
by Mark Tiedemann
Tue Nov 11, 2014 11:51 am
Forum: General
Topic: SCIENCE VS RELIGION
Replies: 8451
Views: 175835

Re: SCIENCE VS RELIGION

FrankChurch wrote:Don't blame Christ blame the believers.


I don't. And...I do. 8)
by Mark Tiedemann
Mon Nov 10, 2014 1:04 pm
Forum: General
Topic: SCIENCE VS RELIGION
Replies: 8451
Views: 175835

Re: SCIENCE VS RELIGION

FrankChurch wrote:
I also found out the Christian church is the most anti-semitic.


Well, duh.
by Mark Tiedemann
Sat Nov 08, 2014 11:48 am
Forum: General
Topic: THE PAVILION ANNEX
Replies: 9947
Views: 467731

Re: THE PAVILION ANNEX

by Mark Tiedemann
Sat Nov 08, 2014 10:11 am
Forum: Pop Culture
Topic: Wathcya watchin'?
Replies: 1642
Views: 50498

Re: Wathcya watchin'?

We watched 9 last night. Superb animation, good voicing, even a halfway decent story, and one of the oddest conceits I've seen in a while. But, then, it was Tim Burton.
by Mark Tiedemann
Fri Nov 07, 2014 10:51 am
Forum: General
Topic: SCIENCE VS RELIGION
Replies: 8451
Views: 175835

Re: SCIENCE VS RELIGION

All this, while philosophically fascinating, really skirts the central question, doesn't it? Is it really the crux of any matter how we define god or whether or not we profess a belief in one? The point of this has long been the argument that without this god thing we cannot function as a moral soci...
by Mark Tiedemann
Thu Nov 06, 2014 11:48 am
Forum: General
Topic: SCIENCE VS RELIGION
Replies: 8451
Views: 175835

Re: SCIENCE VS RELIGION

Ditto to Steve. As I claimed many, many posts ago, I accept the notion of a Spinozan god, which is pretty much what Steve said. Where it gets dicey among us primates is when the definition of a god is one which allows one group to judge and oppress another group, and then justifies it by claiming au...
by Mark Tiedemann
Thu Nov 06, 2014 8:18 am
Forum: General
Topic: SCIENCE VS RELIGION
Replies: 8451
Views: 175835

Re: SCIENCE VS RELIGION

Since "god" seems to be whatever anyone with a conviction says it is, then the Flying Spaghetti Monster is as valid as YHWH. I had assumed this didn't need saying, but maybe it does. I do not believe there is an entity, however composed, which is apart from our (growing) apprehension of re...
by Mark Tiedemann
Wed Nov 05, 2014 5:08 pm
Forum: General
Topic: SCIENCE VS RELIGION
Replies: 8451
Views: 175835

Re: SCIENCE VS RELIGION

Mark, why don't you call yourself an agnostic? To be an atheist you have to prove God cannot exist. That is impossible since we are dealing in different realms of reality. . No, you don't. You simply have to believe that god doesn't. Can't prove a negative and all. But atheism is just that---a nona...
by Mark Tiedemann
Wed Nov 05, 2014 4:31 pm
Forum: General
Topic: SCIENCE VS RELIGION
Replies: 8451
Views: 175835

Re: SCIENCE VS RELIGION

So because we use a common vocabulary you see this as an indication that really, secretly, atheists are what? Believers in denial? Because we can't seem to define evil in any but theological terms we deconstruct our own argument? I don't accept that you're quite that simple. Evil is the act to willf...
by Mark Tiedemann
Wed Nov 05, 2014 1:54 pm
Forum: General
Topic: THE PAVILION ANNEX
Replies: 9947
Views: 467731

Re: THE PAVILION ANNEX

Noooooooooooo, but it is harder. I could learn to take good pictures, but I will never be able to paint, ever. Sure you could. There are those guys on PBS who show you how with a trowel. It's not hard. Really. But, seriously, the hard part is, in both cases, Seeing. Technique is very important, no ...
by Mark Tiedemann
Wed Nov 05, 2014 1:20 pm
Forum: General
Topic: THE PAVILION ANNEX
Replies: 9947
Views: 467731

Re: THE PAVILION ANNEX

Rick Keeney wrote:
FrankChurch wrote:You do have to have a good eye, but painting is harder.


And now every photographer in webderland has been baited.


I note he did not use the traditional put-down---"painting requires more talent"---but went for the caloric index. Or the Besemer.
by Mark Tiedemann
Wed Nov 05, 2014 12:41 pm
Forum: General
Topic: SCIENCE VS RELIGION
Replies: 8451
Views: 175835

Re: SCIENCE VS RELIGION

The Biologist Ernst Mahr thinks humans are a mistake. We should not even still exist. He could be right. He once debated Sagan on aliens and said that humans are so distinct that the fact that there are others like us somewhere else is rare. I think Sagan would have agreed with him on that, if I un...
by Mark Tiedemann
Wed Nov 05, 2014 12:37 pm
Forum: General
Topic: THE PAVILION ANNEX
Replies: 9947
Views: 467731

Re: THE PAVILION ANNEX

FrankChurch wrote:You do have to have a good eye, but painting is harder.


Really? You're going there? Have you ever done any photofinishing?
by Mark Tiedemann
Wed Nov 05, 2014 9:32 am
Forum: General
Topic: SCIENCE VS RELIGION
Replies: 8451
Views: 175835

Re: SCIENCE VS RELIGION

One of the issues I have with my faith is people claiming that God has spoken to them. Also God's absence in times of utter desperation, hardship, and evil. You'll find all Christians, from the simplest of laypersons to the most devout, well-studied priests and theologians, struggle mightily with t...

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