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by Jan
Sat Mar 12, 2005 4:13 am
Forum: The Art Deco Dining Pavilion
Topic: Pavilion Digest: March 2005
Replies: 0
Views: 20020

Name: Jan
Source: unca20050524.htm
So what did Harlan say in Cleveland, guys? I was hoping for some kind of report from those who managed to go (beyond a discussion of Cleveland). Did I miss something?
by Jan
Fri Feb 18, 2005 4:00 pm
Forum: Literary Symposium
Topic: 1976 - Jeffty is Five
Replies: 112
Views: 124973

Five-year olds don't "normally" commit suicide anymore than teenagers "normally" commit suicide. "Stronger case"? Please tell me, Jan, you're not a lawyer currently defending someone on death row. Please calm yourself, I don't see why you need to tear apart my language, which I think is fairly comp...
by Jan
Fri Feb 18, 2005 2:49 pm
Forum: The Art Deco Dining Pavilion
Topic: Pavilion Digest: February 2005
Replies: 0
Views: 19938

MEFISTO

Name: Jan
Source: unca20050524.htm
I was the other guy who called the book MEPHISTO IN ONYX. This happens to be the German title, and I never noticed the difference. Did you, Harlan?
by Jan
Fri Feb 18, 2005 1:44 pm
Forum: Literary Symposium
Topic: 1976 - Jeffty is Five
Replies: 112
Views: 124973

I'm quite certain now that the ending is intentionally open to interpretation, but with the exception of 5.y.olds not normally doing that kind of thing, I have made the stronger case. In the end, it is his (humand and non-human) surroundings that kill him, directly or indirectly, which is why I said...
by Jan
Fri Feb 18, 2005 5:23 am
Forum: Literary Symposium
Topic: 1976 - Jeffty is Five
Replies: 112
Views: 124973

I'm still not convinced of the "murder theory", although Leona opened the door for Jeffty to kill himself. What you quote, Chuck, is a general indication that Donny distrusts the mother. If he had thought that she would murder him, he would *not* have handed him over. But she wasn't about to. She ju...
by Jan
Fri Feb 18, 2005 1:42 am
Forum: The Art Deco Dining Pavilion
Topic: Pavilion Digest: February 2005
Replies: 0
Views: 19938

Name: Jan Source: unca20050524.htm Well, most of all, a RAMA film, if it is to do justice to the book, would have to be very expensive. It's all about a location that doesn't exist and people walking through it. It would HAVE to be full of CGI, and it's always good to wait a few years longer to hav...
by Jan
Thu Feb 17, 2005 4:29 pm
Forum: Literary Symposium
Topic: 1976 - Jeffty is Five
Replies: 112
Views: 124973

OK, by now I sure hope I'm right. :-) The thing is, I still can't see any substantial arguments from the two or three of you. The ending is a bit ambiguous, you can read it both ways. Mom does have a motive. I really don't think he commited suicide: I don't think a five year old would take the reaso...
by Jan
Thu Feb 17, 2005 2:40 pm
Forum: Literary Symposium
Topic: 1976 - Jeffty is Five
Replies: 112
Views: 124973

Barney: I never think of Jeffty as a suicide. That would require some sort of intent that Jeffty simply never gives any indication of. Murder, criminal negligence, youth-enasia and Wharton-esque criminal conspiracy after the fact, sure. But not suicide. So I was right about your opinion. :) Jeffty h...
by Jan
Thu Feb 17, 2005 2:27 pm
Forum: Literary Symposium
Topic: 1976 - Jeffty is Five
Replies: 112
Views: 124973

Although I remembered the sentence vaguely, I somehow didn't find it when I tried to, but now I looked some more. It does change things a bit. To me the object is absolutely Jeffty, but it sure sounds like Leona *did* something because she loved him, which is: she put the radio in his reach because ...
by Jan
Thu Feb 17, 2005 10:41 am
Forum: Literary Symposium
Topic: 1976 - Jeffty is Five
Replies: 112
Views: 124973

I think Mrs Kinzer did murder him ("So she still loved him, still, a little bit after all these years...") by putting the means, the radio, within Jefty's grasp But if she loved him, why would she murder him? Also, did she know and understand him well enough to know what he would do? I would presum...
by Jan
Thu Feb 17, 2005 5:43 am
Forum: Literary Symposium
Topic: 1976 - Jeffty is Five
Replies: 112
Views: 124973

Yesterday I was rearranging my books and stumbled upon something Harlan wrote about JEFFTY for a NEBULA anthology. He says it can be dangerous to wallow in nostalgia and the word he prefers in this case is remembrance. The point being that when you only remember something you don't lose sight of wha...
by Jan
Tue Feb 15, 2005 12:42 pm
Forum: Literary Symposium
Topic: 1976 - Jeffty is Five
Replies: 112
Views: 124973

In the postings so far I find about as much to agree with as I found to disagree with. First of all, nostalgia. Steve said some very intelligent things about the type of nostalgia we have here. Like Brian, I was also reminded of Bradbury, although to a lesser degree. There is also another writer tha...
by Jan
Tue Feb 15, 2005 10:02 am
Forum: The Art Deco Dining Pavilion
Topic: Pavilion Digest: February 2005
Replies: 0
Views: 19938

Just in...

Name: Jan
Source: unca20050524.htm
JMS has plans for a new STAR TREK series, he just posted a letter to his fans: http://trekweb.com/articles/2005/02/15/ ... 45e5.shtml (Sorry for posting twice today, but I assume this is of general interest.)
by Jan
Tue Feb 15, 2005 7:06 am
Forum: The Art Deco Dining Pavilion
Topic: Pavilion Digest: February 2005
Replies: 0
Views: 19938

Name: Jan Source: unca20050524.htm Ben: Sure, writers get tired of certain questions, but I'd imagine Harlan doesn't actually get angry (let alone furious). (I know, you were exaggerating.) Writers may get the question frequently, but it's still very legitimate. In fact, every would-be writer would...
by Jan
Sun Feb 13, 2005 6:42 am
Forum: Literary Symposium
Topic: 1967 - The Prowler in the City at the Edge of the World
Replies: 84
Views: 43396

I've never managed to see the Nicholas Meyer film "Time after Time" (Malcolm McDowell, David Warner, Mary Steenburgen). The story is this: "Jack the Ripper escapes via H.G. Wells's time machine from Victorian London to modern San Francisco; Wells gives chase and eventually projects him into limbo" (...

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