Frank Church's news corner, the sequel.

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Re: Frank Church's news corner, the sequel.

Postby FrankChurch » Sun Apr 07, 2013 12:44 pm

Chris Hedges is resigning from PEN. Very interesting, since this is a pretty respected organization. Harlan got an award from them, I think:

http://www.zcommunications.org/chris-he ... ris-hedges

The left is still winning in Venezuela. I guess the people are dumb, right Barber?

http://www.zcommunications.org/venezuel ... ry-wilpert

Wilpert is an South American expert. He wasn't a dictator... :)

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Postby FrankChurch » Thu Apr 11, 2013 11:05 am

Amira Hass, now there's a journalist.

http://www.democracynow.org/2013/4/10/i ... arks_furor

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Postby Moderator » Thu Apr 11, 2013 2:15 pm

If you've been following the rhetoric, Frank, you'd know there's a serious cult of personality taking hold. And yes, I'm worried about the way this is being fed to the masses.
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Re: Frank Church's news corner, the sequel.

Postby FrankChurch » Fri Apr 12, 2013 9:20 am

Get ready for what I'm about to post. Bet you can't wait.

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Postby Moderator » Fri Apr 12, 2013 11:49 am

Nope, which is why I'm posting this little snippet from the Venezuelan rational, er, "national", election.

Think Chávez was paranoid? Venezuela's Maduro warns of US-funded biker gangs.
Interim President Nicolás Maduro has spoken publicly about conspiracies ranging from murder plots to Salvadoran mercenaries. They serve as a political tool to unify the population and silence criticism.


http://news.yahoo.com/think-ch-vez-paranoid-venezuelas-maduro-warns-us-144848293.html

(The news source was the Christian Science Monitor)
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Postby Mark Tiedemann » Fri Apr 12, 2013 12:37 pm

Chavez's government paid large banks 16 + % interest on loans. In return, he required them to make loans to the poor which they all knew could not be paid back. He was making up the difference by committing government funds to interest service. The banks were among the few industries in Venezuela never to be nationalized. Chavez was a canny politician---he was basically buying a reputation. One of the consequences of this policy has been very high inflation which threatens to get out of hand, which really only impacts the very poor he wanted everyone to see him helping.

I point this out not to paint Chavez as a fraud but basically to show that he was not really much better than any other politician. In some ways, however, he was fairly typical of most Latin American despots. (For instance, his attempted redrafting of the constitution so he could legally stay in power.) His hand-picked successor is supported by "neighborhood militias" who go around bullying people who talk about voting for the opposition. And, in great tradition, there is only one independent new organization left in Venezuela and they are under daily pressure to stop criticizing the Chavez legacy and support Maduro.

A saint this guy wasn't. While there may have been no death squads under Chavez and there were some very real attempts to help the poor, he actually widened the gap between the haves and have nots in his country because he seems not to have known the first thing about economics. Maduro is more of a realist. We can all look forward to seeing a more typical bully regime if he wins election.

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Re: Frank Church's news corner, the sequel.

Postby FrankChurch » Fri Apr 12, 2013 12:38 pm

I would bet the same paper would never print something like this:

REPUBLICAN LAWMAKERS, WHO HAVE CONSPIRATORIAL VIEWS ABOUT IMMIGRANTS, MAY SOFTEN THEIR STANCES UNDER MARCO RUBIO'S UMPRELLA.

Or:

REPUBLICANS IN THE HOUSE INSIST THAT TAX CUTS WILL HELP THE AILING ECONOMY--A VIEW THAT IS SEEN AS CONSPIRATORIAL.

Nah, would never happen.

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Re: Frank Church's news corner, the sequel.

Postby FrankChurch » Fri Apr 12, 2013 12:43 pm

Mark, there's a balanced view. lol

Here's a better one:

http://www.counterpunch.org/2013/04/12/ ... ve-chavez/

Mark, tell me, why is Thatcher getting such good press here, when her people are having street parties celebrating her death? While the whole of Venezuela came out to mourn someone who was so despotic, something they should be somewhat angry about, but were not.

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Postby Mark Tiedemann » Fri Apr 12, 2013 1:29 pm

FrankChurch wrote: Mark, tell me, why is Thatcher getting such good press here, when her people are having street parties celebrating her death? While the whole of Venezuela came out to mourn someone who was so despotic, something they should be somewhat angry about, but were not.


Read what I wrote. I didn't say he was despotic. He exhibited certain tendencies in that direction, but in no way would I compare him to a Pinochet. I said he's not the saint you like to make him out to be. The great socialist made a bunch of bankers happier and wealthier than they already were.

As to Thatcher...did you see Glenda Jackson's take-down in Commons of her legacy?

She's getting the press she's getting for the same reason Reagan got his. People have short memories and it's easy to be sympathetic for a dead politician than to actually do anything about a living one.

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Re: Frank Church's news corner, the sequel.

Postby FrankChurch » Mon Apr 15, 2013 9:34 am

Best that we leave them alone and let them have their own system.

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Postby FrankChurch » Mon Apr 15, 2013 11:36 am

Barbara Boxer is desecrating the senate once again:

http://www.commondreams.org/view/2013/04/13-6

I will bet you big money that the next terrorist attack will be a bomb funneled in from and Israeli passport.

Thanks Barb.

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Re: Frank Church's news corner, the sequel.

Postby FrankChurch » Tue Apr 16, 2013 6:04 pm

Seems Roger Waters of Pink Floyd is an anti-Israel occupation person like me. He had an interview in NY cancelled because of the noxious lobby. His recent tour of the wall is now about the separation-apartheid wall:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/1 ... 93070.html

He should tour in Israel but make it known his anger at the lack of peace.

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Re: Frank Church's news corner, the sequel.

Postby FrankChurch » Wed Apr 17, 2013 12:28 pm

Dennis Miller: "There are certain madmen in the world."

Frank Church: "What made them mad?"

Why can't this question be broached?

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Re: Frank Church's news corner, the sequel.

Postby FrankChurch » Thu Apr 18, 2013 9:32 am

It is now legal again for congressman to trade stocks with insider information, which was illegal for a short period, but was fast tracked away. If this doesn't make you hate all these bastards I don't know what will:

http://www.npr.org/blogs/itsallpolitics ... rading-law

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Also shame on Obama for not going after criminal elements of the religious right, people who use the tax exemption of religion to make themselves rich and bilk their sheep. Obama could stop this very easily but the religion lobby has him by the wing tips.

See, I can play the Ezra role, when he is gone. lol Trinity Broadcasting should be nuked.

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Re: Frank Church's news corner, the sequel.

Postby Moderator » Thu Apr 18, 2013 3:39 pm

FrankChurch wrote:Dennis Miller: "There are certain madmen in the world."

Frank Church: "What made them mad?"

Why can't this question be broached?


Because, honestly, it's a dumb-ass question based on word play.

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