SCIENCE VS RELIGION

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Re: SCIENCE VS RELIGION

Postby Moderator » Fri Oct 29, 2010 10:20 am

Maybe because I'm dressed in this here fancy-dancy purple moderator's robe and slippers, but I tend to check whatever thread is marked "New Posts".

And secondly, my link seemed more appropriate to Science v Religion than a discussion of Actor/Politicians. But that's just me.

But I'm happy to post it wherever warranted.
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Re: SCIENCE VS RELIGION

Postby markabaddon » Fri Oct 29, 2010 10:37 am

Thanks Steve, now I have an image of you in full on pimp garb, like Kramer in that Seinfeld episode.

If I have nightmares tonight, I am calling and waking yo ass up! :twisted:
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Re: SCIENCE VS RELIGION

Postby FrankChurch » Fri Oct 29, 2010 12:23 pm

As long as Barber keeps his clothes on.

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Re: SCIENCE VS RELIGION

Postby Lori Koonce » Fri Oct 29, 2010 1:53 pm

*snuggles up to Ezra, caressing his brow and kissing his cheek*

My poor little darling. Those meanies don't know what to do with a delicate soul. You'll have to forgive them, I'll take care of the punishment part.

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Re: SCIENCE VS RELIGION

Postby Moderator » Fri Oct 29, 2010 3:35 pm

FrankChurch wrote:As long as Barber keeps his clothes on.


No worries. There's a restraining order.

Several in fact.
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Re: SCIENCE VS RELIGION

Postby diane bartels » Fri Oct 29, 2010 3:45 pm

Oh sure Frankie ruin all the fun for us girls. Ezra, I'll have susan throw the kettle on and harlan pop out the raspberry scones. All manner of things will be well. I always check this thread. DB

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Re: SCIENCE VS RELIGION

Postby Steve Evil » Sun Oct 31, 2010 6:44 am

Well who wants traffic anyway? All that congestion, those infernal dealys, the fumes. . .

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Re: SCIENCE VS RELIGION

Postby Ezra Lb. » Sun Oct 31, 2010 8:21 am

Coo...gurgle...safe and warm safe and warm safe and warm...mom-meeee...
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Re: SCIENCE VS RELIGION

Postby Ezra Lb. » Tue Nov 02, 2010 5:49 pm

It's like the universe screams in your face, 'Do you know what I am, how grand I am, how old I am? Can you even comprehend what I am? What are you, compared to me?' And when you know enough science, you can just smile up at the universe and reply, 'Dude, I am you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6w2M50_ ... r_embedded


On the other hand...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... U61vQXLarQ
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Re: SCIENCE VS RELIGION

Postby Chuck Messer » Tue Nov 02, 2010 7:04 pm

Thanks, Ezra. The first link spoke directly to how I feel and think. "Science saved my soul", indeed.

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Re: SCIENCE VS RELIGION

Postby Ezra Lb. » Mon Nov 15, 2010 7:32 pm

I have to admit I'm not a big fan of the International Space Station. it has accomplished very little actual science and is, like the Shuttle, a half-assed compromise that exists mostly because of its PR value. However it has a helluva view with the new addition...

http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap101115.html

Far more useful is the good ole Hubble, still rolling along...

http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap101011.html

http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap100908.html

And I get really exasperated when I hear people complain that we aren't exploring space...

http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap101004.html

http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap100215.html

Sure, physically human beings aren't on Mars or Saturn but our machines are extensions of our senses. Through them we all can go into space instead of just a few selected stand-ins.
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Re: SCIENCE VS RELIGION

Postby FrankChurch » Mon Nov 15, 2010 7:58 pm

Don't get mad Ezra, because this is a science centered video: Steven Pinker talking about linguistics and a certain other Professor. Don't worry, he is critical:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=piGbuSTckr8

So, babies interpret Run as Rin? Interesting. Pinker doesn't buy it.

So, Chomsky doesn't think that language is evolutional? Hmm, I bet Chomsky is being misquoted.

Pinker gets his politics all wrong, but I will deal with that on my thread. Even the biggies can be dumb. I mean Pinker..lol

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Re: SCIENCE VS RELIGION

Postby Ezra Lb. » Tue Nov 16, 2010 9:51 am

Don't get mad Ezra...

Frank you unmitigated goofball, how dare you post a science related video in a science thread! What's got into you!?! Did you think we wouldn't notice that the post wasn't your usual incoherent and unrelated response?

Don't ever do that again or I'll be forced to ask that the moderator permanently ban you from participation.

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Actually Pinker's right. The "blank slate" is one of those discredited concepts like "aether" and "phlogiston". We are genetically determined creatures. Of course the language depends on where you're born but the underlying architecture is already there. This seems to be true of all human behaviour. This will be one of those findings of science that will be the hardest to digest.
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Re: SCIENCE VS RELIGION

Postby Ezra Lb. » Fri Dec 17, 2010 3:52 pm

Fair, and balanced!

http://www.technewsworld.com/story/7147 ... 1292621700

In the email dated Dec. 8 and made public Wednesday by Media Matters for America, Fox News Washington managing editor Bill Sammon instructed staffers to "refrain from asserting that the planet has warmed (or cooled) in any given period without IMMEDIATELY pointing out that such theories are based upon data that critics have called into question."


Who thinks like this?

http://americanpowerblog.blogspot.com/2 ... ement.html

Well we all know who.



Richard Dawkins on the King James Bible. Not what you expect. (The title of the piece seems odd in context and I suspect was provided by the editor of the New Statesman.)

http://richarddawkins.net/articles/5637 ... of-science



Where no one has gone...before.

http://richarddawkins.net/articles/5637 ... tem-s-edge
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Re: SCIENCE VS RELIGION

Postby FrankChurch » Sat Dec 18, 2010 12:59 pm

In Indiana an atheist group from Wisconsin has tried to stop the erection of a nativity scene in front of the courthouse there that has been erected for about 30 years. I know we have separation of church and state but don't atheists have better use of their time than to shit on Christmas scenes?

This just makes people more right wing and makes the atheists lose adherents.


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