THE PAVILION ANNEX

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Re: THE PAVILION ANNEX

Postby Steve Barber » Wed Nov 05, 2014 3:07 pm

FrankChurch wrote:You do have to have a good eye, but painting is harder.



I've done both. I'm not a bad painter, but love photography more. I wouldn't say it's harder, I'd say they are two different processes.
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Re: THE PAVILION ANNEX

Postby AndrewR » Wed Nov 05, 2014 4:20 pm

FrankChurch wrote:You do have to have a good eye, but painting is harder.


Lord help me. This is the kind of comment that the Haskins quote speaks to. Neither discipline is harder or easier than the other. They're different media entirely. I couldn't paint if my life depended on it, but I wouldn't expect a painter to go into my darkroom and make a decent print either.

I expect comments like this from those who don't understand art or artists.

It's an art form. Elitism dictates that certain things have to be said. Writing fiction is harder than writing newspaper copy. Classical violin is harder than metal guitar.


So much claptrap here. "Harder" or "easier" are null terms with regard to art forms. Something that's hard for one artist may be incredibly easy for another and it's impossible to compare them in such black and white terms.

Elitism dictates nothing.

Noooooooooooo, but it is harder. I could learn to take good pictures, but I will never be able to paint, ever.


Yeah, no. You might learn a certain amount of technical proficiency but if you don't have the "eye" you'll never be anything but a technician. Artistry takes innate ability as well as training.

BTW, I don't "take" pictures, I "make" them.
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Re: THE PAVILION ANNEX

Postby FrankChurch » Wed Nov 05, 2014 4:53 pm

Barber, don't forget that I call you F-Stop Fitzgerald. Andrew would like that one.

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Re: THE PAVILION ANNEX

Postby Steve Barber » Wed Nov 05, 2014 10:48 pm

FrankChurch wrote:Barber, don't forget that I call you F-Stop Fitzgerald. Andrew would like that one.



Wish I could take credit for his work...

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Re: THE PAVILION ANNEX

Postby FrankChurch » Mon Nov 10, 2014 12:32 pm

Keeney, Diane, be careful with the foot of snow. I'm really sorry.

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Cardiac Issues

Postby Rick Keeney » Wed Nov 12, 2014 10:37 am

fyi

Diane Bartels just texted me on facebook asking what my atrial fibrillation feels like, because she had something going on and was feeling uncomfortable. I told her to fly FLY! to the Emergency Room. She must've taken my advice, as she's not responded to any other messages from me.

If this ever happens to you, or you have the mildest suspicion that something is awry with your heart: Take an aspirin and get yourself to the ER. Immediately. You can't afford to guess wrong, and you get to go straight to the front of the line.

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Re: THE PAVILION ANNEX

Postby Rick Keeney » Wed Nov 12, 2014 5:40 pm

Hmmm...

I'm not sure Diane has transportation that's going to get her around as efficiently as she might like. If the doctor has any slightest concern she would keep a patient for observation for part of a day, at least.

For now, I'll assume a combination of complications with the inconvenience normally associated with Emergency Room and hospital protocols and Diane's possible transportation conundrum.

24 hours, then I'll be more concerned. Checked her fb page; no updates.

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Re: THE PAVILION ANNEX

Postby FrankChurch » Thu Nov 13, 2014 2:13 pm

Read San Jose is a big job market. That true.

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Re: THE PAVILION ANNEX

Postby Lori Koonce » Thu Nov 13, 2014 2:54 pm

Most all of the SF Bay Area is at this point Frank.

We have better weather and nicer people too. :evil: :twisted:

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Re: THE PAVILION ANNEX

Postby Ezra Lb. » Thu Nov 13, 2014 4:20 pm

Anyone hear from Diane?
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Re: THE PAVILION ANNEX

Postby Lori Koonce » Thu Nov 13, 2014 4:38 pm

She posted here and of FB earlier Ezra.

Whatever was bothering her is done doing so for the time being. Check the Pavilion, she posted there as well.

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Re: THE PAVILION ANNEX

Postby Chuck Messer » Thu Nov 13, 2014 6:02 pm

On Facebook I told her she has legions in her corner. It seems the crisis is passed, for now. I hope it stays that way.

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Re: THE PAVILION ANNEX

Postby Ezra Lb. » Fri Nov 14, 2014 9:57 am

Glad to hear it.
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Re: Cardiac Issues

Postby Steve Barber » Sat Nov 15, 2014 9:25 am

Rick Keeney wrote:fyi

Diane Bartels just texted me on facebook asking what my atrial fibrillation feels like, because she had something going on and was feeling uncomfortable. I told her to fly FLY! to the Emergency Room. She must've taken my advice, as she's not responded to any other messages from me.

If this ever happens to you, or you have the mildest suspicion that something is awry with your heart: Take an aspirin and get yourself to the ER. Immediately. You can't afford to guess wrong, and you get to go straight to the front of the line.


Just catching up on my reading. I agree 100% with your advice. I've had a couple of incidents, and it's not worth the "sucking it up" and seeing where it takes you.

Could be the morgue.
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