THE PAVILION ANNEX

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Re: THE PAVILION ANNEX

Postby FrankChurch » Sat Aug 20, 2011 12:59 pm

Something to ponder:

"The sinister fact about literary censorship in England is that it is largely voluntary. Unpopular ideas can be silenced, and inconvenient facts kept dark, without the need for any official ban.

Anyone who has lived long in a foreign country will know of instances of sensational items of news -- things which on their own merits would get the big headlines -- being kept right out of the British press, not because the government intervened but because of a general tacit agreement that "it wouldn't do" to mention that particular fact. So far as the daily newspapers go, this is easy to understand. The British press is extremely centralised, and most of it is owned by wealthy men who have every motive to be dishonest on certain important topics. But the same kind of veiled censorship also operates in books and periodicals, as well as in plays, films and radio. At any given moment there is an orthodoxy, a body of ideas which it is assumed that all right-thinking people will accept without question. It is not exactly forbidden to say this, that or the other, but it is "not done" to say it, just as in mid-Victorian times it was "not done" to mention trousers in the presence of a lady. Anyone who challenges the prevailing orthodoxy finds himself silenced with surprising effectiveness. A genuinely unfashionable opinion is almost never given a fair hearing, either in the popular press or in the highbrow periodicals."

George Orwell, censored preface to Animal Farm.

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Re: THE PAVILION ANNEX

Postby Samuel John Klein » Sat Aug 20, 2011 8:10 pm

FrankChurch wrote:When the second great depression begins San Francisco may be where the revolutionary hub may begin.


Wherever this country goes, I have the feeling that the West Coast will be one of the last sane places in it. Just about everyone I've ever known who comes from or is attracted to the Pacific coast have this innate sense of how and when to roll with the punches.

There is nothing anywhere else that we need that we don't already have here.

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Re: THE PAVILION ANNEX

Postby diane bartels » Sun Aug 21, 2011 10:32 am

I note no one has posted yet today. Shhh... be wery quiet. Durn wabbit.

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Re: THE PAVILION ANNEX

Postby Lori Koonce » Sun Aug 21, 2011 1:45 pm

*pushing through the underbrush* HEY DIANE, WHY ARE YOU TELLLING US ALL TO BE QUIET?

MAYBE IF SOMEONE MAKES A LITTLE NOISE, WE COULD GET SOMETHING GOING HERE!

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Re: THE PAVILION ANNEX

Postby Chuck Messer » Sun Aug 21, 2011 7:44 pm

Eeful beeful box,
Hoful toful lox,
ramadan, samduran, eeful beeful box.
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Re: THE PAVILION ANNEX

Postby cynic » Sun Aug 21, 2011 8:38 pm

a language game ?
follow your bliss,mike

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Re: THE PAVILION ANNEX

Postby Samuel John Klein » Sun Aug 21, 2011 9:23 pm

O si bili, si ergo
Fortibuses in ero!
Em ar not! Em ar trux!
Sewatisinem?
Cowsandux!
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Re: THE PAVILION ANNEX

Postby Chuck Messer » Sun Aug 21, 2011 10:35 pm

It's from...a Robert Sheckley story, I believe. The crew of a starship land on a planet with no sign of intelligent life, except for a featureless tower with two protrusions near the top. The crew check out the flora and fauna and find, for example, no insects, no microbes. Strange. A creature approaches them and recites the poem I quoted above. Then everything around them seems to run down. Oh, my God, think the crew we've killed them with our germs! Then the tower starts to turn. . .

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Re: THE PAVILION ANNEX

Postby cynic » Sun Aug 21, 2011 11:47 pm

thanks chuck.
follow your bliss,mike

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Re: THE PAVILION ANNEX

Postby cynic » Sun Aug 21, 2011 11:51 pm

do you remember the title ?
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Re: THE PAVILION ANNEX

Postby Chuck Messer » Mon Aug 22, 2011 10:01 am

I've tried to look it up, but the internet search was damned frustrating. When I finally got to where I could get either text or a title or synopsis, IT WAS IN FUCKING SPANISH!! All of it. Every link. Maybe one or two in Portugese. I tried translating it, but my computer maxed out. Picture someone with a blank stare, a little drool on their chin going "Geeg...geeg...geeg."

If I said it once, I've said it at least twice: robots are dorks.

I'll check at the local library tomorrow. They're closed on Mondays.

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Re: THE PAVILION ANNEX

Postby Chuck Messer » Mon Aug 22, 2011 10:03 am

I originally read the story in an anthology back in the late sixties, early seventies, so my recall is a bit vague, and the title escapes me.

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Re: THE PAVILION ANNEX

Postby cynic » Mon Aug 22, 2011 10:14 am

hate it when that happens. :?
been reading (right now actualy) sheckley on guttenburg since your post.
http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/search. ... query=2960
check the wiki list of short stories to jog your memory ?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sh ... t_Sheckley

hope there's no grief via my curiousity :oops:
it sounds like a cool story, familiar, i may have read it already (or one like it).
the poem seemed familiar somehow.
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Re: THE PAVILION ANNEX

Postby Lori Koonce » Mon Aug 22, 2011 10:23 am

Cynic

I'm still working on it, but when I put "Eeful beeful box, " into Yahoo, it came up with Robert Sheckley. So that's a good place to start. I'll see what I can get from my library, which should be open in another hour or so.

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Re: THE PAVILION ANNEX

Postby Lori Koonce » Mon Aug 22, 2011 10:25 am

OK Boys. I found the title of the story on Scribd in Spanish

According to the Babblefish translation it is called The Definite Weapon!


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