FrankChurch wrote:I always back my stuff up with facts and evidence, blah blah.
I've been thinking about this a bit, because I didn't want to just call BS. The problem, Frank, is you argue in soundbites and rely on all those links to carry your water. You open a door and lob in a cherry bomb, then run away before it explodes and gets everyone else all exercised, then you're not there to engage in the discussion. You cast aspersions but you don't actually make any arguments, just condemn. By the time people here respond with counter-arguments, you've moved on to another topic and more glib comments. Sometimes the links you post have facts, but just as often (or more) they're just lengthier restatings of your initial snarky comment. It's not an argument, not a discussion, its more like speed dating, but you never connect. never go out with anyone, never have that more detailed conversation.
It then comes across as a pretense of superior knowledge, you "holding yourself above the fray" by not deigning to engage in the rough-n-tumble. You make a pronouncement and if we disagree, it seems your lack of response implies you think we're just deluded or, worse, evil. ("Well, if you can argue with that, I'm not even going to grace your comeback with a reply.") But just as you suggest the Other Side cherrypicks its data, so do you. All the rather extensive and detailed information that has been provided to you about the situation between Israel and its detractors, you never respond, as if it has passed through you like a ghost without substance. Maybe you think this makes you appear wise, but it's just annoying, especially when you can't come back and say "But that's wrong!" (I mean, hell, just as a for instance, regardless of how Israel behaves, the fact is that with very few exceptions, they live surrounded by countries and institutions that have pledged their utter destruction, which is a reality they have to live with daily---but you never even comment on how all those people ought to grow up and get over it, and by omission you seem to implicitly agree with them. Not very solid ground on which to base a claim that you "back all your arguments up with facts.")
So, there's my take on the problem. You do not argue well or fairly, yet bitch when the same tactics are used on you. That's the problem.