alexanderthesoso wrote:Reconcile radio commercials with Mozart. Both are musical media intended to convey information of a sorts. One is art, the other, many would say is not, although we are getting disturbingly close to "Demolition Man" where those old jingles were the top 40 hits.
Not all games are art, no, but its a media that is capable of being art, depending on the circumstances. Would you agree with that?
I disagree with your initial postulate that somehow radio commercials and Mozart come from a similar intent. The radio commercial is not designed to create art, it is designed to get attention for the express purpose of selling a product/service. Mozart did not write his compositions with the intent to sell a product, but to create something for the sake of creating.
And yes, I agree that the medium may be capable of being artistic, but so far it has not produced anything I would describe as a unique art form. While many films don't qualify as "art", filmmaking is an art form. And I think this last part is where we differ.
People make art to express artistic visions. If a video game maker works from that criteria then what they accomplish may be called art.
(But they don't, they approach it from the aspect of what makes a good game. The visuals may qualify as art, the "story" may even qualify as art -- but the parts may exceed the whole in this respect.)
Again, I have to go back to my D&D example -- which I do only because it's the best analogy of an interactive video game I can come up with -- and ask: is the game itself
And, IMHO, it isn't. Nor are Warcraft
, Final Fantasy
, or Super Mario Fillintheblank
(Necessary caveat: There is a thing called
videogame art, which is essentially created by rewriting the games involved -- and it is done for artistic purposes since it cannot be sold or otherwise distributed. The fact that the user is doing the work simply to do it adds credence to this being an "art".
art is, IMHO, an art form. http://www.Renderosity.com
is an excellent example of how good this sort of thing can get. My entire issue is with calling video games art. Even though they are comprised
of art forms, they are not -- or have not yet become
-- one in and of themselves.)