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Postby Gwyneth M905 » Thu Dec 11, 2008 10:18 pm

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Postby reddragon70 » Fri Dec 12, 2008 5:49 am

Agreed. Betty Page was well before my time but I admire her work greatly. She was a lovely lady. Its a sad loss to the world and to entertainment in general.

She was an insparation to a generation of women. Not just to men who admired her. She helped empower women to realise that they didnt have to spend eight hours a day behind a typewriter and that burlesque is not dirty or smutty. It is an artform in its own right.

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Postby David Loftus » Fri Dec 12, 2008 8:45 am

Seems like over the years I've seen appreciations of Ms. Page by such as Buck Henry (in Playboy, perhaps?) and Harlan Ellison, too. (Harlan wrote an introduction to a collection of photos and artwork, I believe.)

Nobody's mentioned the film that was made fairly recently about her. Not a documentary but a dramatization of her life -- "The Notorious Bettie Page," starring Gretchen Mol. Has anyone seen it?
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Postby FrankChurch » Fri Dec 12, 2008 9:51 am

She was the supreme irony of the 50s. I see light, not darkness.

Happy Birthday as well, dear Gwynnie.

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Postby Gwyneth M905 » Fri Dec 12, 2008 10:39 am

David Loftus wrote:Nobody's mentioned the film that was made fairly recently about her. Not a documentary but a dramatization of her life -- "The Notorious Bettie Page," starring Gretchen Mol. Has anyone seen it?


Harlan has referred to Bettie as "the dark Marilyn" (not sure of the origin of that quote.)

Just for UTTER shits and giggles, here is the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops' movie review of "The Notorious Bettie Page"
P.S. I own a copy, as well as "Teaserama", "Varietease", "Striporama", "Exotic Dances", "Bondage Classics" and "Fetish and Catfight Films". Oh yeah, and "100 Girls by Bunny Yeager"

Erm...harrumph....the Bishops speak...

Full Review

The Notorious Bettie Page" (Picturehouse) is a biographical drama about the 1950s' fetish pinup icon (played by Gretchen Mol). Page, who was raised in a strict Christian home in rural Tennessee, escaped abuse by her father and then her first husband to pursue an acting career in New York.

After failing at that, she began modeling -- sometimes nude -- for men's magazines, eventually making her name posing in bondage-themed photos, before abandoning modeling for religion. Far from a vampy vixen, Page, at least as portrayed by Mol, is naive to a fault, seemingly oblivious to how she is being exploited and objectified.

Solid supporting work is provided by Lili Taylor and Chris Bauer as husband and wife photographers, and David Strathairn -- who in a turnaround from last year's "Good Night & Good Luck." -- here plays a McCarthyesque senator crusading against smut.

Mol captures both Page's appearance and playful personality, but director Mary Harron's movie -- shot mostly in black and white -- lacks form and depth, not offering more than a superficial treatment of Page's religious convictions and her conflicted attitude toward pornography.

Though Page's faith comes across as sincere -- and is depicted with reverence -- the film leaves viewers wondering what she ultimately felt about her past. The final scene shows Page as a street-corner evangelist, reading the passage "Behold, I make all things new" from Revelation, which suggests a conversion. But when asked if she has any regrets, Page -- who earlier remarked that "God gave me the talent to pose" -- answers with the morally ambiguous reply, "When Adam and Eve sinned, they put on clothes."

The story's subject matter will obviously limit its appeal. [Yeah, to Americans with genitalia and libidos! g]

The film contains full-frontal and rear female nudity, recurring sexually aberrant poses, the suggested sexual abuse of a minor, an implied gang rape, an instance of rough language and profanity. The USCCB Office for Film & Broadcasting classification is O -- morally offensive. The Motion Picture Association of America rating is R -- restricted. Under 17 requires accompanying parent or adult guardian.
http://www.usccb.org/movies/n/thenotori ... page.shtml


Oh dear, I guess that means I will have to get Frank to hold my hand and buy my ticket to go see this film. Oops no wait, I'm a codger now. I can buy my own F8cking ticket and GET OFF MY LAWN, YOU DAMN KIDS! (I just waxed it!!!!)

R.I.P. You saucy, naughty, neighbor-next-door Bettie who used to come over and babysit and just occasionally liked to take her clothes off and pose with cheetahs. You know how much I'll miss that!

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Postby David Loftus » Fri Dec 12, 2008 10:56 am

The U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops referred to:

> recurring sexually aberrant poses

You mean like . . . in and out?


while Gwyneth shouted:

> and GET OFF MY LAWN, YOU DAMN KIDS! (I just waxed it!!!!)

Um . . . is that some sort of euphemism? I'm confused.
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Postby Gwyneth M905 » Fri Dec 12, 2008 11:29 am

David Loftus wrote:The U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops referred to:

> recurring sexually aberrant poses

You mean like . . . in and out?


while Gwyneth shouted:

> and GET OFF MY LAWN, YOU DAMN KIDS! (I just waxed it!!!!)

Um . . . is that some sort of euphemism? I'm confused.


Oh David, you are just so SAUCY!!! ;)

Nope, the Bishs' are just getting all hot and bothered by Bettie's being trussed up in S&M fetish gear -- the movie is really tame. If you've seen her actual movies, you've seen everything that's in this movie--by 21st century standards (i.e. the sadomasochism shown in THE PASSION OF THE CHRIST) THE NOTORIOUS BETTIE PAGE is practically a PG-13. The 1950's porno doesn't show pink, bloodsports, watersports, etc.

Not even up to Tarantino standards re: sex & violence.

I loved it, thought that Gretchen Mol did an excellent job channeling Bettie. Another wonderful Bettie lookalike can be found here: http://www.bettiepageclothing.com/
Her name is Bernie Dexter, you can Google her, she also has her own line of lingerie.

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Postby Alan Coil » Fri Dec 12, 2008 7:53 pm

Always been a fan of Page. Artist Dave Stevens adored her, and eventualkly became her friend. He used her likeness as the girlfriend in The Rocketeer, which was made into a movie featuring Jennifer Connelly as the girlfriend.

Comic book, cartoon, and television writer Mark Evanier wrote the following,

http://www.newsfromme.com/archives/2008 ... tml#016339

And the New York Times article/obit.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/12/arts/12page.html?_r=1

And a link to many of her pictures. WARNING! Many pics are Not Safe For Work! (Or some homes, for that matter.) WARNING!

http://www.planetbettie.com/art.htm

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Postby Gwyneth M905 » Sat Dec 13, 2008 12:05 am



Alan, thank you for these wonderful links, especially to the Bettie pictures... :)

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Postby FrankChurch » Sat Dec 13, 2008 10:27 am

Gwynnie, suprised David hasn't tried to break us up. hehe.

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Postby David Loftus » Sat Dec 13, 2008 10:57 am

I never interfere.

I INSINUATE.
War is, at first, the hope that one will be better off; next, the expectation that the other fellow will be worse off; then, the satisfaction that he isn't any better off; and, finally, the surprise at everyone's being worse off. - Karl Kraus

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Postby FrankChurch » Sat Dec 13, 2008 12:08 pm

I do have a girlfriend. Don't want to scare Gwynnie, who is a nice egg.

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Postby FrankChurch » Sat Dec 13, 2008 12:11 pm

I incinerate.

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Postby Gwyneth M905 » Sat Dec 13, 2008 1:01 pm

FrankChurch wrote:I do have a girlfriend. Don't want to scare Gwynnie, who is a nice egg.


But...Frankie...what about Douglas and that truckstop? :P

And hey, girlfriends don't scare me...I've had a few in my lifetime too...


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