Pavilion Digest: February 2009

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Jim Thomas

Postby Jim Thomas » Sat Feb 28, 2009 7:02 am

Name: Jim Thomas
Source: unca20090314.htm
Ah,the first sinus infection of the year is soooo exhilarating.

On the plus side, I convinced my three year-old that he didn't need to watch Chicken Little for a *third* time today. So we're watching Wall-E instead.

It got me thinking of 5-6 years ago, Catherine--then three--had gotten into trouble for something or another, and her punishment was that she didn't get to watch any of her movies for the weekend. By Sunday afternoon, she was seriously jonesing for Monsters, Inc. She comes to me with her big blue eyes, "Daddy, can I **pleeeeeeeeaase** watch Monsters?"

I held fast, but offered an alternative. "How about we cuddle up in the chair and watch one of *my* movies?"


She then proceeded to watch *Singin'in the Rain* three straight timees. She till watches it every now and then.

Time for more Nyquil.

Zack Malatesta

Hux Lee and Meier

Postby Zack Malatesta » Sat Feb 28, 2009 7:53 am

Name: Zack Malatesta
Source: unca20090314.htm
Confused Thomas for Julian.
Can't remember what essay I was after.
Oh well. Save evolutionary human religion for later.
Time to read the Talmud Jmmanuel and formulate reasoning as to why the aliens are not trustworthy. A primitive, all-praise-to-the-sky mindset. Or to the heavens, as it were.
I don't think the Doc. will like it. Fond of Origin, him.

Blather - Our country theater will show WATCHMEN. Just a tad bit flabbergasted. They didn't show DARK KNIGHT.

-Zack is Malatesta

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New Beverly Cinema

Postby Dennis C » Sat Feb 28, 2009 8:25 am

Name: Dennis C
Source: unca20090314.htm
It's the New Beverly Cinema (no Glen and not anywhere near Beverly Glen).

It was run for 30 years by an old pal of mine, Sherman Torgan, who passed away in '07 unexpectedly. (I used to manage a movie theater down the street, the Pan Pacific, and we'd help each other out with supplies and stuff on occasion, as well as comping one another into our theaters.) I'm happy his family is keeping the place alive.

So if any of you guy to any of the screenings (and I hope to, work permitting), whisper a little hello to Sherman while you're there.

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Postby Moderator » Sat Feb 28, 2009 9:41 am

Name: Steve Barber
Source: unca20090314.htm

Aaaahhhh, Saturday. My cellphone is off, my work computer is off. Go f*** the b*st*rds say I.

SUSAN - You mention the Lewis Carroll album by Harlan and Michael York in RH47, along with Blackstone's website and toll free number. Any chance this is also carried directly by HERC???

The new issue of Comic-Con Magazine has several items of interest to Webderlanders' tastes. An interview with Zack Snyder about WATCHMEN; followed by a preview of WonderCon (those of you attending might want to pick up this mag, which is undoubtedly available on the floor somewhere); an interview with Stephan Pastis (creator/artist on the comic strip PEARLS BEFORE SWINE) and Richard Thompson (same for CUL DE SAC); and lastly an interview with AMAZING RACE contestants Bill Kahler and Mark Yturralde (they of the geek squad last season, one of whom nearly passed out while wrestling women in the Andes). (Y'see what happens when you don't watch this show? You miss things like geeks wrestling women in the Andes. Y'see?!)

And penultilastly, now that Facebook has admitted that maybe they DON'T own the copyright to everything posted on their website, I've put up a Travel-related photo album with a number of shots nobody here has seen (and a few you have). They're from the archive of my as-yet-stillborn travel website THE THUMBNAIL TRAVELER. ... 04&l=9d0a5

You don't have to be a member of Facebook to see the album, just cut and paste the above link. Not sure if you can post messages...

HARLAN: I owe you some printouts. Apologies for the delay, but work has been intense for the last couple a weeks. To offer some solace for my delay, I give you the information that March 5th is apparently James' birthday -- and I was wondering if you'd shot any gophers lately...

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Postby FrankChurch » Sat Feb 28, 2009 9:42 am

Name: Frank Church
Source: unca20090314.htm
KOS, where are your sources, Pally?

The Grand Mufti was installed by Britain until 1948, when Jordan's king did it. The Mufti could not entertain political matters or he would be removed. Arafat removed one such Mufti for saying suicide bombing was a good tactic. That was Arafat.

You cannot talk about anti-semitism and not talk about how our country hated the Jews. We didn't want them in after the good war and Nazi parties were a custom before the war. One side of radical Zionism advocated that the Jews go to Israel instead of America. The Jews, if polled, would have wanted to be here. Much of this was political hackery by the Zionists--or one side of Zionism, since another strain was against a Jewish state. Chomsky was that kind of Zionist back then.

I need to see them sources kiddo.

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Postby MichaelRapoport » Sat Feb 28, 2009 10:43 am

Name: Michael Rapoport
Source: unca20090314.htm
Rabbit Hole #47 arrived here today, somewhere in the swamps of Jersey. Thank you, Susan. Thank you, Harlan.

I especially loved page 27 - you know, the mash note J.D. Salinger wrote to Harlan after reading "Paladin of the Lost Hour"? Wonderful, apocryphal stuff! Still waiting for the Ellison-Salinger collaboration he proposed...

Mitch Keith

Rabbit Hole 47

Postby Mitch Keith » Sat Feb 28, 2009 11:59 am

Name: Mitch Keith
Source: unca20090314.htm
Just grabbed me issue 47 of zee ole' Rabbitz Holez from the trusty rusty old Mailbox, but......
all I have is a pretty blue 4 page extravaganza! Harlan mentions this issue as having 36 pages, but maybe that was a joke of some kind. Just thought I'd bring it up in case there's a problem somewhere. Have a good one, All.

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Rabbit Hole #47

Postby Charlie » Sat Feb 28, 2009 12:38 pm

Name: Charlie
Source: unca20090314.htm
What Mitch says. It just hit the mailbox today, but my copy is also just the front page and the back page (for ordering Deathbird Stories)-2 sheets, front & back. Am I missing anything in between?

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Rabbit Hole #47...

Postby Bret Bertholf » Sat Feb 28, 2009 12:46 pm

Name: Bret Bertholf
Source: unca20090314.htm
I, too, received four pages. A Rabbit Hole of any length (depth?) is cause for celebration, but the mystery of page 20 is nibbling upon my compos mentis.

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On receiving the Rabbit Hole and reading recent postings.

Postby M Jacka » Sat Feb 28, 2009 1:18 pm

Name: Mike Jacka
Source: unca20090314.htm
Which reminds me of a story

A couple of years ago I wrote an article for Internal Auditor magazine. In it, I announced that the Institute of Internal Auditors (the IIA) was going to open an amusement park- Auditland - near their headquarters in Altamonte Springs, Florida. The article went on to outline planned lands and rides that mirrored the more famous Anaheim-based land we all know. The article was clearly labeled On the Lighter Side. Within a few weeks, the magazine was contacted by one of their associate members in India wanting detailed information and flyers about the new amusement park. The editor really didnt know how to handle the request and forwarded it to my attention for a reply. I didnt want to insult the writer if he was, indeed, in on the joke, but I didnt want to embarrass him either. I replied that, as a writer, I appreciated when someone responded to my humorous pieces in a similar manner. My thought was that, if he was indeed trying to be funny, he would know I enjoyed the humor. If on the other hand he just didnt get the joke, this response would not rub his face in the mistake.

Fast forward one year. There were a number of international travelers visiting IIA headquarters. One of them happened to meet the editor of the magazine. The individual was very excited to see the editor because he was interested in learning how things were progressing with Auditland. According to the editor, he was quite serious.

I am of the opinion that the missing pages of the latest edition of Rabbit Hole have been lost somewhere with the plans for Auditland.

(Just for the record, I am not making up the magazine, the IIA, the location of headquarters, or this story.)


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Postby Alan Coil » Sat Feb 28, 2009 2:21 pm

Name: Alan Coil
Source: unca20090314.htm
2 questions--

As I'm thinking there might be skullduggery involved, I must ask: are all you Rabbit Hole subscribers are getting the same 4 pages, or are you getting random pages of a much larger edition?

As the subject has been beaten into submission, can we please stop discussing the Israel/Hamas situation?

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Postby Tony Rabig » Sat Feb 28, 2009 3:02 pm

Name: Tony Rabig
Source: unca20090314.htm
Arrived here in Darkest Oz this morning. I too received only 4 pages and at first thought something was wonky. Then went back, looked at Harlan's note, figured I was having an exceptionally slow day and just wasn't getting the joke (about par for me these days), and then realized that it had to be a joke and I wasn't missing any pages.

Because a coupla sharp customers like our host and hostess would probably use a larger envelope and more postage if they were actually sending out a 36-page extravaganza.

Gotta say, though, I envy you LA folks that New Beverly Cinema. Nice schedule. Reminded me how much I miss being able to see the old stuff at the Clark Theatre or the 400 Theatre in Chicago.

Bests to all,


William Sherman
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To Our Princess Diane, and ........Holes

Postby William Sherman » Sat Feb 28, 2009 3:04 pm

Name: William Sherman
Source: unca20090314.htm
Dear Mr. Ellison et al.:

Diane: I read "The Prophet" years ago, and I found the experience less than satisfying. Thus, Mr. Ellison and KOS do have a point as to the quality of the literature, and also do have the right of expressing their dislike of the work here in the Pavilion. I'm still filling in the fistula bequeathed me by Mr. E. for my mis-spelling (guilty) of Edgar Allan (not Allen) Poe's name a month ago. Will leave a nice scar, though.

No need to leave. As Sammy Davis Jr. once uttered: "If someone doesn't criticize, then they don't give a damn." We do care about culture; hence, this site.

Staying on the subject of holes--not fiscal, mind--as a non-subscriber, has The Rabbit Hole morphed into The Pigeon Hole? Just a thought.

To our Welsh friends, Happy St. David's Day tomorrow; to all else, Happy Sunday. (Our day comes on the seventeenth, of course.) To our Jewish friends, Happy Purim.

Just begun a 1974 reprint of a 1904 novel by Robert W. Chambers entitled "In Search of the Unknown". Any remarks, dear friends?

Regards, en garde.

William Sherman
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Postby Cindy » Sat Feb 28, 2009 3:42 pm

Name: Cindy
Source: unca20090314.htm
Don't leave, Diane!
We all have guilty secrets! I am addicted to the HBO series Big Love, 30 Rock and the fucking Mentalist-- yeah, thats right, I copped to it right here in front of Harlan and everybody-- the fuckin Mentalist, for Gods sake, OH and Medium!!! I fuckin watch MEDIUM every week! I have read AND enjoyed Harold Robbins novels ( Okay, when I was 19) and I have never been able to get through Moby Dick( not ONCE!) because I keep stopping to look up the words I dont understand.

Lets see-- I once stole a fishing lure when I was 10, I listen to Willie Nelson a LOT. I hate opera and ballet-- I fell asleep during Shakespeare In Love and I loved the film White Chicks.

There--- now, dont you feel better?Oh WAIT and Im a Republican!

Cmon, pal-y stick around! I admire your usage of the word "fuck" when you're pissed off-- you wield it at least as well as I do!

Don't leave because you've had your feathers singed. You're lovely to have around and we'll miss you!

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Postby Chuck Messer » Sat Feb 28, 2009 5:06 pm

Name: Chuck Messer
Source: unca20090314.htm

Got Rabbit Hole #47. Boy, am I glad we've got a progressive administration in office, with a more progressive AG.

I mean, the whole Shagging Fungoes gatefold was pretty damned explicit. The Bushies would have been knocking on your door over that bit of pornography. And how do Fungoes get into that position anyhow?


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