DC versus Marvel films

[robochrist]

The "persona" wasn't complex at all.

Namor's persona is complex. Parker's persona is complex. Batman is archetypal.

[Ezra Lb.]

Faves?

The Flash! So cool. Anybody remember the mercifully short lived TV series that came out right after the release of the Tim Burton BATMAN movie? My brother and I still laugh at the memory. He had armor. That's right Flash armor. Now if there was ever a superhero whose persona was the exact opposite of a knight in armor it was Flash. But hey Batman was successful and he had armor so... If there is a better example of the sheer stupidity of TV I can't think of it.

Other faves over the years-

Steve Ditko's run on Dr Strange. When he left he took all the magic.

Jim Aparo's run on Phantom Stranger

Anything by Jack Kirby especially Fantastic Four.

best Superman villain - Braniac 5!

[robochrist]

'Twixt collecting old issues and the hardcover collections:

Steve Ditkos visualization of DR. STRANGE is just dynamite - and should any film version (inevitably) materialize, I would (in vain) wish it to work off the look created by Ditko - a look of surreal squalor (I'm thinking mainly of Ditko's origin story - where Strange starts out as this self-centered asshole - a greedy version of House, if you will - and winds up a derelict on the New York docks. Evocative stuff!)

FANTASTIC FOUR, apart from John Byrnes run on the book - the LAST time FF had something going for it! - Kirby's issues #41 through #88, then Buscema up to issue #112. There was one final memorable storyline drawn by Rich Buckler - issues (I think) #174-#179 (High Evolutionary versus Galactus). But Kirby's issues, for myself, in the numbers I named absolutely REIGN.

AND, as mentioned, so much other stuff by Kirby: I actually loved his adaptation of 2001.

And BLACK BOLT - one of my favorite characters.

Frank Miller's run on DAREDEVIL.

Buscema's run on THOR.

Sal Buscema's run on the HULK (Herb Trimpe, too).

...A thought, too, about the Silver Surfer: I always preferred Kirby's interpretation of the character - a more estranged and unpredictable personality - than the comparatively "woosed-out" version reinvented by Buscema and Stan Lee.

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Re: DC.

Only regular books I ever took interest in were Green Lantern and Batman. But I only actually bought graphic novels from the company's output, never their regular titles.

[robochrist]

A correction: Kirby's FF books #41-94.

BTW, villains...we can't leave out the bad assholes: ANNIHILUS is one of my faves (since I mentioned the Buscema issues that featured the ruler of the Negative Zone).

[Steve Evil]

I followed Surfer for a while in the 90's. Couldn't believe how many artists couldn't draw him, usually making him look like a puddle of lead - the Grey Surfer more like.

[FrankChurch]

Kirby does nothing for me. Runz.

[robochrist]

Kirby does nothing for me. Runz.

Like I said...genetically incapable!

[K. M. Kirby]

So, who will be catching the midnight dkr showing tonight?

[Moderator]

So, who will be catching the midnight dkr showing tonight?

You all have probably already seen the news from Colorado.

Unbelievable.

[FrankChurch]

What is wrong in colorado?